Second wheelie bin to be introduced in Darlington after consultation showed more than half of public have no concerns

The Advertiser Series: Street Scene team leader Dave Hutchinson with the proposed collection pack for Darlington households; wheelie bin on left for general rubbish, small green box for glass, smaller wheelie bin with inset box for plastics, paper etc Street Scene team leader Dave Hutchinson with the proposed collection pack for Darlington households; wheelie bin on left for general rubbish, small green box for glass, smaller wheelie bin with inset box for plastics, paper etc

PLANS to revise rubbish collections in Darlington are set to be confirmed by councillors after more than half of the people who responded to public consultation said the changes would not affect them.

The proposals to implement an Alternate Weekly Collection (AWC) service in the town are not without controversy however, with a number of concerns raised about the storage of an extra wheelie bin and potential difficulties for the disabled and elderly.

Darlington Borough Council’s cabinet will decide between three options for the AWC service when they meet to discuss the results of the public consultation on Tuesday.

The preferred option will see the majority of households in Darlington split their waste between two wheeled bins – one for residual waste and the other for recyclable materials – and a box for glass.

Removals will work on a fortnightly basis, with rubbish collected one week and recycling the next. Most properties will receive a second 240-litre bin, the same as the existing waste bin.

Up to 8,000 homes in the borough will keep their waste wheelie bin but will receive a second box for recyclables instead of another bin, because the wagon for recycling collections will be too big to access the back lanes. The changes –set to introduced by October - are expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year.

The consultation into the waste collection service saw 576 replies from residents, both online and in writing.

Of those, 53.8 per cent said the changes would not impact on them, with 46.2 per cent saying they would be affected.

Concerns included bins obstructing the pavement, difficulties for the visually impaired in correctly separating waste into the right bins, limited capacity for large families and difficulty for wheelchair users to manoeuvre around their properties as a result of additional bins and boxes.

A report from Darlington Association on Disability said pavements have been regularly obstructed by bins since they were introduced and that problems would increase with additional bins and boxes.

In a report prepared for Tuesday’s (January 7) meeting, the council responded to the concerns, pledging extra publicity and enforcement action to ensure people use their bins correctly.

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2:01pm Sat 4 Jan 14

oliviaden6 says...

What has happened to the ministers directive about fortnightly collections? This goes to show that the council thinks nothing of public welfare and hygeine and sticks two fingers up at government and us the public.
What has happened to the ministers directive about fortnightly collections? This goes to show that the council thinks nothing of public welfare and hygeine and sticks two fingers up at government and us the public. oliviaden6
  • Score: 42

2:16pm Sat 4 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

As sure as night follows day this was bound to happen. The thieving toe rags in our beloved council obviously haven't heard what central government has to say on this matter. Oh yeah I forgot, there is a small matter of a Labour/Tory conflict of interest going on and guess what folks, it's dear old Joe Public who pays the price for all the politicking once again.
As sure as night follows day this was bound to happen. The thieving toe rags in our beloved council obviously haven't heard what central government has to say on this matter. Oh yeah I forgot, there is a small matter of a Labour/Tory conflict of interest going on and guess what folks, it's dear old Joe Public who pays the price for all the politicking once again. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 39

2:23pm Sat 4 Jan 14

sineater says...

And so the saga of the Darlo wheelie bins goes on,will it ever end folks ?
And so the saga of the Darlo wheelie bins goes on,will it ever end folks ? sineater
  • Score: 13

2:39pm Sat 4 Jan 14

BMD says...

"Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year"

Are we to expect a council tax reduction?
"Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year" Are we to expect a council tax reduction? BMD
  • Score: 46

2:53pm Sat 4 Jan 14

ivyhill says...

does that mean we find another million plus pounds from some hidden account that we had forgot about,to buy extra bins,its time this council put its priorities in order,and thats not more silly bins.
does that mean we find another million plus pounds from some hidden account that we had forgot about,to buy extra bins,its time this council put its priorities in order,and thats not more silly bins. ivyhill
  • Score: 39

3:05pm Sat 4 Jan 14

fourmars says...

why do DBC make it difficult with regards to bin collections,other councils do a bin for household waste and a bin for paper,tins,plastic and glass,so why make the glass separate,that means another bin wagon is needed which means bigger fuel and labour cost,
why do DBC make it difficult with regards to bin collections,other councils do a bin for household waste and a bin for paper,tins,plastic and glass,so why make the glass separate,that means another bin wagon is needed which means bigger fuel and labour cost, fourmars
  • Score: 27

3:14pm Sat 4 Jan 14

sensible says...

Its not like me to stick up for a council, but this system does work well in Durham. One bin a week goes out, just like now, with the glass box going out once every 6 to 8 weeks or so when it fills up!

The only problem is when a bin doesn't go out for some reason, and its then 4 weeks between emptying!
Its not like me to stick up for a council, but this system does work well in Durham. One bin a week goes out, just like now, with the glass box going out once every 6 to 8 weeks or so when it fills up! The only problem is when a bin doesn't go out for some reason, and its then 4 weeks between emptying! sensible
  • Score: 6

3:29pm Sat 4 Jan 14

calumannabel says...

I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.
I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars. calumannabel
  • Score: 74

3:55pm Sat 4 Jan 14

sineater says...

Sensible Thank you for a sensible comment,can you visit Darlo some time and breath some common sense on people!
Sensible Thank you for a sensible comment,can you visit Darlo some time and breath some common sense on people! sineater
  • Score: -12

4:15pm Sat 4 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

BMD wrote:
"Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year"

Are we to expect a council tax reduction?
That's a very good point.

We await with baited breath.
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: "Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year" Are we to expect a council tax reduction?[/p][/quote]That's a very good point. We await with baited breath. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 22

4:28pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Mistake says...

Didn't they already indicate plans to increase council tax the maximum allowed (2%) every year for the next several years? I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for any reductions.
Didn't they already indicate plans to increase council tax the maximum allowed (2%) every year for the next several years? I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for any reductions. Mistake
  • Score: 19

4:40pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Gamechanger says...

Wheelie bins are fantastic. The town is cleaner and tidier since they were introduced. Who the heck wants to go back to bin bags that get ripped apart by vandals and vermin and rubbish strewn streets. Alternative weekly collection not a problem at all and should encourage recycling.
Wheelie bins are fantastic. The town is cleaner and tidier since they were introduced. Who the heck wants to go back to bin bags that get ripped apart by vandals and vermin and rubbish strewn streets. Alternative weekly collection not a problem at all and should encourage recycling. Gamechanger
  • Score: 21

5:04pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Mistake says...

Gamechanger wrote:
Wheelie bins are fantastic. The town is cleaner and tidier since they were introduced. Who the heck wants to go back to bin bags that get ripped apart by vandals and vermin and rubbish strewn streets. Alternative weekly collection not a problem at all and should encourage recycling.
they're great in principal but up this end of town there's so many homes without yard access that wheeled bins are left on public footpaths everywhere you look. Doubling the number of bins is going to have an even worse effect on the already abysmal image of the area. The strong winds recently have been a nightmare with bins flying off to god knows where. Some including my neighbours have yet to be found.

Then there's the flats where no bins were ever delivered and the council tells residents that their property was deemed unsuitable and to leave the black bags out as normal for collection - the trouble is they only collect them once every 6-8 weeks.

I agree with the need for wheeled bins but just like everything else this council attempts the bins were poorly planned and poorly implemented.
[quote][p][bold]Gamechanger[/bold] wrote: Wheelie bins are fantastic. The town is cleaner and tidier since they were introduced. Who the heck wants to go back to bin bags that get ripped apart by vandals and vermin and rubbish strewn streets. Alternative weekly collection not a problem at all and should encourage recycling.[/p][/quote]they're great in principal but up this end of town there's so many homes without yard access that wheeled bins are left on public footpaths everywhere you look. Doubling the number of bins is going to have an even worse effect on the already abysmal image of the area. The strong winds recently have been a nightmare with bins flying off to god knows where. Some including my neighbours have yet to be found. Then there's the flats where no bins were ever delivered and the council tells residents that their property was deemed unsuitable and to leave the black bags out as normal for collection - the trouble is they only collect them once every 6-8 weeks. I agree with the need for wheeled bins but just like everything else this council attempts the bins were poorly planned and poorly implemented. Mistake
  • Score: 22

5:20pm Sat 4 Jan 14

bishop1 says...

here in Bishop we were all twisting & moaning when they spoke of bringing the 2 bin system in , to be fair it is no real problem at all .
all I will say is give it a chance & see how it works out for you before condemning the idea .
here in Bishop we were all twisting & moaning when they spoke of bringing the 2 bin system in , to be fair it is no real problem at all . all I will say is give it a chance & see how it works out for you before condemning the idea . bishop1
  • Score: 21

5:27pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

How many people were consulted and how were they selected?

Having seen what happened with the BID scheme these surveys usually don't stand up to close scrutiny.

Even at best it seems almost half the people consulted are not happy with the change.

I am happy with the situation at present but I already see rubbish outside of Bins because they don't hold enough. There is going to be garbage everywhere

It's all about protecting councillors and council staff at the expense of the ratepayer. I don't want another bin. I have nowhere to keep it
How many people were consulted and how were they selected? Having seen what happened with the BID scheme these surveys usually don't stand up to close scrutiny. Even at best it seems almost half the people consulted are not happy with the change. I am happy with the situation at present but I already see rubbish outside of Bins because they don't hold enough. There is going to be garbage everywhere It's all about protecting councillors and council staff at the expense of the ratepayer. I don't want another bin. I have nowhere to keep it Homshaw1
  • Score: 40

5:33pm Sat 4 Jan 14

hogworth says...

Can someone please tell me when and where this public consultatio took place? I have asked several family and friends if they had been consulted and all said no!
Can someone please tell me when and where this public consultatio took place? I have asked several family and friends if they had been consulted and all said no! hogworth
  • Score: 44

6:03pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Time-Traveller says...

Maybe a bit of 'Self Help' is needed here.... A few containers (emptied regularly by DBC) dotted around at strategic positions for us to walk our recycleables to? Who knows, we may save the planet yet!
Maybe a bit of 'Self Help' is needed here.... A few containers (emptied regularly by DBC) dotted around at strategic positions for us to walk our recycleables to? Who knows, we may save the planet yet! Time-Traveller
  • Score: 3

8:31pm Sat 4 Jan 14

J Corbett says...

576 replies from 8,000 households, These figures are the truth.
We all know the council have made there mind up before it goes to the public to decide.
576 replies from 8,000 households, These figures are the truth. We all know the council have made there mind up before it goes to the public to decide. J Corbett
  • Score: 35

8:51pm Sat 4 Jan 14

grandmab says...

From the whining i see here in the comments, I guess no one reads the paper or watches the darlington.gov website.'"I wasn't consulted." The only people i feel sorry for are the elderly and disabled who may not have access to the internet and cannot physically deal with these bins. For myself a three bin system would be best because we are burying a lot of compostable rubbish like your leftover din dins. But then they would go to three week system and we would all need bigger bins. The only comments i can agree with state that the council does not listen and is very poor at planning and execution of those plans.
From the whining i see here in the comments, I guess no one reads the paper or watches the darlington.gov website.'"I wasn't consulted." The only people i feel sorry for are the elderly and disabled who may not have access to the internet and cannot physically deal with these bins. For myself a three bin system would be best because we are burying a lot of compostable rubbish like your leftover din dins. But then they would go to three week system and we would all need bigger bins. The only comments i can agree with state that the council does not listen and is very poor at planning and execution of those plans. grandmab
  • Score: -10

9:48pm Sat 4 Jan 14

MSG says...

We need someone to stand in an election with one set of mandates -

Sack Dixon, No more wheeled Bins and get rid of the Chief Executive !!
We need someone to stand in an election with one set of mandates - Sack Dixon, No more wheeled Bins and get rid of the Chief Executive !! MSG
  • Score: 31

10:10pm Sat 4 Jan 14

100%Darlington says...

The rest of the country seem to cope with similar systems very well, so why not Darlington! The money saved I presume will go towards maintaining other services which would be scrapped due to the budget restraints the Council is having to operate under. Some of the comment contributors on here need to google, Capital and Revenue to understand the difference as it is capital money which is funding the Council initiatives.
The rest of the country seem to cope with similar systems very well, so why not Darlington! The money saved I presume will go towards maintaining other services which would be scrapped due to the budget restraints the Council is having to operate under. Some of the comment contributors on here need to google, Capital and Revenue to understand the difference as it is capital money which is funding the Council initiatives. 100%Darlington
  • Score: -6

11:31pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Joanne2410 says...

Why complain DBC behind the times- it's change! Change happens in life, get on with it! Durham County Council introduced this to us a few years back I have a general waste bin, a recycling bin for paper, cans, cardboard, a bin for garden waste and a box for glass which is a lot less to what we had down South! Each recycling part was a separate bin I.e. Paper one, plastic another! This system actually works great as I now recycle more than what I would normally through into general rubbish. And the comment about separate glass collection is twaddle. The recycling wagons for DCC are split so the bin is emptied into one side and the glass goes into the other, so I assume DBC will follow the same! At the end of the day looks better and more hygienic than having black bags strewn across Darlo, cos it did look poverty stricken and behind the times before!
Why complain DBC behind the times- it's change! Change happens in life, get on with it! Durham County Council introduced this to us a few years back I have a general waste bin, a recycling bin for paper, cans, cardboard, a bin for garden waste and a box for glass which is a lot less to what we had down South! Each recycling part was a separate bin I.e. Paper one, plastic another! This system actually works great as I now recycle more than what I would normally through into general rubbish. And the comment about separate glass collection is twaddle. The recycling wagons for DCC are split so the bin is emptied into one side and the glass goes into the other, so I assume DBC will follow the same! At the end of the day looks better and more hygienic than having black bags strewn across Darlo, cos it did look poverty stricken and behind the times before! Joanne2410
  • Score: -2

11:37pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Joanne2410 says...

I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions! Joanne2410
  • Score: -24

3:24am Sun 5 Jan 14

Firebrand says...

Great! I live in a 3 bedroom terraced house on the top of a hill & my bin has to go out front. With 2 of them, I’ll have to play bloody Tetris with them so I can see out of my living room window.
Great costcutter! I wonder what the cost was? For the two Fire Engines on our street this week, who came out to extinguish a burning Wheelie bin (I'll YouTube that vid. now).
Well, I suppose it’s a different approach to costcutting, to that of persecuting Married Disabled people by giving £9.40pw less Housing Benefit, when their Incapacity Benefit changes to ESA, at least.
Great article. Thanks :D
Great! I live in a 3 bedroom terraced house on the top of a hill & my bin has to go out front. With 2 of them, I’ll have to play bloody Tetris with them so I can see out of my living room window. Great costcutter! I wonder what the cost was? For the two Fire Engines on our street this week, who came out to extinguish a burning Wheelie bin (I'll YouTube that vid. now). Well, I suppose it’s a different approach to costcutting, to that of persecuting Married Disabled people by giving £9.40pw less Housing Benefit, when their Incapacity Benefit changes to ESA, at least. Great article. Thanks :D Firebrand
  • Score: 4

9:30am Sun 5 Jan 14

zippyzip says...

By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents .
By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents . zippyzip
  • Score: 19

9:37am Sun 5 Jan 14

paul1963 says...

calumannabel wrote:
I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.
I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.[/p][/quote]I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made paul1963
  • Score: 7

9:56am Sun 5 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

100%Darlington wrote:
The rest of the country seem to cope with similar systems very well, so why not Darlington! The money saved I presume will go towards maintaining other services which would be scrapped due to the budget restraints the Council is having to operate under. Some of the comment contributors on here need to google, Capital and Revenue to understand the difference as it is capital money which is funding the Council initiatives.
Thank god for common sense.

Darlo folk, are you cross because you 'weren't consulted' or cross because you don't want wheelie bins?

Listen, you are having the same worries and concerns that nearly everyone in DCC's area had. And it's needless. It works. It's cleaner. It's NOT rat heaven.

And yes, if you want the Dolphin Centre to stay open (or suchlike) then yes, why not?
[quote][p][bold]100%Darlington[/bold] wrote: The rest of the country seem to cope with similar systems very well, so why not Darlington! The money saved I presume will go towards maintaining other services which would be scrapped due to the budget restraints the Council is having to operate under. Some of the comment contributors on here need to google, Capital and Revenue to understand the difference as it is capital money which is funding the Council initiatives.[/p][/quote]Thank god for common sense. Darlo folk, are you cross because you 'weren't consulted' or cross because you don't want wheelie bins? Listen, you are having the same worries and concerns that nearly everyone in DCC's area had. And it's needless. It works. It's cleaner. It's NOT rat heaven. And yes, if you want the Dolphin Centre to stay open (or suchlike) then yes, why not? Copley23
  • Score: 6

10:07am Sun 5 Jan 14

harry2 says...

They did have the bins on show in the dolphin centre, wonder if they consulted people on there way in ??

I think I might come into the the category who wouldn't get the second bin because of narrow back alleys, I don't recycle at the minute and that it because my house isn't big enough and nor do I want a box of rubbish sat for 2 weeks in my kitchen ans we did try putting it in the back yard but then we had to carry it right through the house and it was often soaking wet, not nice.
They did have the bins on show in the dolphin centre, wonder if they consulted people on there way in ?? I think I might come into the the category who wouldn't get the second bin because of narrow back alleys, I don't recycle at the minute and that it because my house isn't big enough and nor do I want a box of rubbish sat for 2 weeks in my kitchen ans we did try putting it in the back yard but then we had to carry it right through the house and it was often soaking wet, not nice. harry2
  • Score: 5

10:28am Sun 5 Jan 14

Taxpaying Homeowner says...

A second bin will work, and has been proven to work in other areas of the North East even with terrace housing.

Recyclying generates money, so there won't be a big cost to taxpayers. The reduced frequency of standard collections will also save money.

You may have to adjust how you dispose of waste but we are a family of four with a child in nappies (more waste) and we find that we fill each bin fully in time for the collections. Our old habits wild have a full bin within a week.

It does work, trust me :-)
A second bin will work, and has been proven to work in other areas of the North East even with terrace housing. Recyclying generates money, so there won't be a big cost to taxpayers. The reduced frequency of standard collections will also save money. You may have to adjust how you dispose of waste but we are a family of four with a child in nappies (more waste) and we find that we fill each bin fully in time for the collections. Our old habits wild have a full bin within a week. It does work, trust me :-) Taxpaying Homeowner
  • Score: 5

10:44am Sun 5 Jan 14

oliviaden6 says...

Joanne2410 wrote:
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
That may be so BUT MR Dixon for his sins is the leader so his head is on the block what ever happens, and you cant get away from the fact that this governing council and its officers have lost the plot big time.
Waste?
Lack of considered consultation?
Riding rough shod over the public.
I could go on and on but the odds are stacked against, The inherent bent of electing Labour is hard to stomach, when you see what has and is happening in this town? And before you say anything i am a union member and have been for more than 40 years and a blue collar worker to boot but I now resign all that because we are being dragged into anarchy from all sides.
[quote][p][bold]Joanne2410[/bold] wrote: I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions![/p][/quote]That may be so BUT MR Dixon for his sins is the leader so his head is on the block what ever happens, and you cant get away from the fact that this governing council and its officers have lost the plot big time. Waste? Lack of considered consultation? Riding rough shod over the public. I could go on and on but the odds are stacked against, The inherent bent of electing Labour is hard to stomach, when you see what has and is happening in this town? And before you say anything i am a union member and have been for more than 40 years and a blue collar worker to boot but I now resign all that because we are being dragged into anarchy from all sides. oliviaden6
  • Score: 9

10:46am Sun 5 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

zippyzip wrote:
By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents .
I thought you voted for these folk to do EXACTLY that for you. To make decisions for you. To spend your money for you.

If they aint doing that, you know what to do..........
[quote][p][bold]zippyzip[/bold] wrote: By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents .[/p][/quote]I thought you voted for these folk to do EXACTLY that for you. To make decisions for you. To spend your money for you. If they aint doing that, you know what to do.......... Copley23
  • Score: 3

11:04am Sun 5 Jan 14

settheworldonfire says...

BMD wrote:
"Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year"

Are we to expect a council tax reduction?
Try d.c.c.
Wear Valley area have 3 bins....
Black for household...Blue lid for recycling...

Plus a brown for garden waste
WHICH RESIDENTS SHOULD NOW KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY £20 A YEAR OR MORE TO BE EMPTIED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY...
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: "Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year" Are we to expect a council tax reduction?[/p][/quote]Try d.c.c. Wear Valley area have 3 bins.... Black for household...Blue lid for recycling... Plus a brown for garden waste WHICH RESIDENTS SHOULD NOW KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY £20 A YEAR OR MORE TO BE EMPTIED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY... settheworldonfire
  • Score: 1

11:15am Sun 5 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

For the record. I was never consulted about this and nor was anyone that I know. So the headline in false and fabricated - much like most of the sh1t that comes from this poxy council of thieves.
For the record. I was never consulted about this and nor was anyone that I know. So the headline in false and fabricated - much like most of the sh1t that comes from this poxy council of thieves. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 7

11:16am Sun 5 Jan 14

BMD says...

zippyzip wrote:
By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents .
The Council have found that the best way to contact the residents is to publish a notification in the "Darlington Together" free magazine (insurance size font - Very small letters)

This serves two purposes - One: Nobody reads the "Darlington Together" and generates fewer objections.
Two: The Council can state they have satisfactory given notification.

Bill and his Buddies haven’t got where they are, without knowing how to hoodwink the electorate.
[quote][p][bold]zippyzip[/bold] wrote: By any chance were the 576 replies from council workers and their families??? No-one I know has received any letter from the council.with such a small amount of replies,surely another 'letter' should have gone out to homes to get accurate feedback and opinions from more residents .[/p][/quote]The Council have found that the best way to contact the residents is to publish a notification in the "Darlington Together" free magazine (insurance size font - Very small letters) This serves two purposes - One: Nobody reads the "Darlington Together" and generates fewer objections. Two: The Council can state they have satisfactory given notification. Bill and his Buddies haven’t got where they are, without knowing how to hoodwink the electorate. BMD
  • Score: 14

11:19am Sun 5 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

Joanne2410 wrote:
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.
[quote][p][bold]Joanne2410[/bold] wrote: I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions![/p][/quote]You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 16

11:45am Sun 5 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
wrote:
Joanne2410 wrote:
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.
"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!"

No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see.
[quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joanne2410[/bold] wrote: I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions![/p][/quote]You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.[/p][/quote]"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!" No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see. Copley23
  • Score: -3

11:49am Sun 5 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

settheworldonfire wrote:
BMD wrote:
"Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year"

Are we to expect a council tax reduction?
Try d.c.c.
Wear Valley area have 3 bins....
Black for household...Blue lid for recycling...

Plus a brown for garden waste
WHICH RESIDENTS SHOULD NOW KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY £20 A YEAR OR MORE TO BE EMPTIED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY...
They don't HAVE to. It's an option for those who wish to. We didn't have it before and we were lucky to have Rotters who has an SLA to do this.

It's only because DCC got their dabbling little fingers in it and saw it was going places........£££
££££££££££
.

So don't buy into it.
[quote][p][bold]settheworldonfire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: "Expected to save Darlington Borough Council about £390,000 a year" Are we to expect a council tax reduction?[/p][/quote]Try d.c.c. Wear Valley area have 3 bins.... Black for household...Blue lid for recycling... Plus a brown for garden waste WHICH RESIDENTS SHOULD NOW KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY £20 A YEAR OR MORE TO BE EMPTIED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY...[/p][/quote]They don't HAVE to. It's an option for those who wish to. We didn't have it before and we were lucky to have Rotters who has an SLA to do this. It's only because DCC got their dabbling little fingers in it and saw it was going places........£££ ££££££££££ . So don't buy into it. Copley23
  • Score: 2

11:53am Sun 5 Jan 14

David Lacey says...

The three bin system in Durham results in "bin blight" as people (especially in terraced houses and flats) have nowhere to store the wretched things. So they bung them where they can - often near the front door or in shared areas.
.
The Spanish have a brilliant way of coping. They have created neighbourhood mini-centres with huge dome shaped containers of differing colours for glass, metal and general waste. Folks take their trash to the centres and deposit the bagged rubbish. A truck calls every week to pick up the domes and replace them with emptied ones. It is brilliant! No individual bins. No noisy bin wagons. No men lumping bins back and forth.
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Why can't we do it?
The three bin system in Durham results in "bin blight" as people (especially in terraced houses and flats) have nowhere to store the wretched things. So they bung them where they can - often near the front door or in shared areas. . The Spanish have a brilliant way of coping. They have created neighbourhood mini-centres with huge dome shaped containers of differing colours for glass, metal and general waste. Folks take their trash to the centres and deposit the bagged rubbish. A truck calls every week to pick up the domes and replace them with emptied ones. It is brilliant! No individual bins. No noisy bin wagons. No men lumping bins back and forth. . Why can't we do it? David Lacey
  • Score: 12

1:21pm Sun 5 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

Copley23 wrote:
thetruththewholetrut

handnothingbutthetru

th
wrote:
Joanne2410 wrote:
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.
"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!"

No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see.
He's the man at the top is he not? He gets paid a fortune from the taxpayer does he not?

Therefore HE is responsible.

Noting left to debate here
[quote][p][bold]Copley23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joanne2410[/bold] wrote: I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions![/p][/quote]You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.[/p][/quote]"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!" No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see.[/p][/quote]He's the man at the top is he not? He gets paid a fortune from the taxpayer does he not? Therefore HE is responsible. Noting left to debate here thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 10

1:36pm Sun 5 Jan 14

sineater says...

David, Instead of taking on here about the Spanish system of dealing with waste, why not tell someone like Eric Pickles,and let him investigate if said system is worthwhile considering for the u.k. ?
David, Instead of taking on here about the Spanish system of dealing with waste, why not tell someone like Eric Pickles,and let him investigate if said system is worthwhile considering for the u.k. ? sineater
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Sun 5 Jan 14

BMD says...

sineater wrote:
David, Instead of taking on here about the Spanish system of dealing with waste, why not tell someone like Eric Pickles,and let him investigate if said system is worthwhile considering for the u.k. ?
Ha,ha,ha - Dont tell Darlington Labour Council members, they will want to go on a month long fact finding mission at the expense of the Tax-payers.
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: David, Instead of taking on here about the Spanish system of dealing with waste, why not tell someone like Eric Pickles,and let him investigate if said system is worthwhile considering for the u.k. ?[/p][/quote]Ha,ha,ha - Dont tell Darlington Labour Council members, they will want to go on a month long fact finding mission at the expense of the Tax-payers. BMD
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Sun 5 Jan 14

sineater says...

Then get on with it,and stop crying to the echo !!!
Then get on with it,and stop crying to the echo !!! sineater
  • Score: -2

6:26pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Border Terrier says...

Now I know what my garage is for, I thought it was for my car?
Now I know what my garage is for, I thought it was for my car? Border Terrier
  • Score: 7

6:50pm Sun 5 Jan 14

LUSTARD says...

if you want to use me as a tip sorter, and store your bins to do so. i will be charging by the hour for my work, and by the fortnight for storage
if you want to use me as a tip sorter, and store your bins to do so. i will be charging by the hour for my work, and by the fortnight for storage LUSTARD
  • Score: 11

6:55pm Sun 5 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

Ian James wrote:
DBC are an absolute load of dings, run by a load of bent counciller's who have seen more balls, than Elton John's chin!! lol. They don't listen nor are they bothered about the town's opinion and they would gladly pinch yeh teeth n come back for yeh gums, lol. And, are simply not worth a rub or a nut or my time, well aye!! lol.
Ian James L by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]Ian James[/bold] wrote: DBC are an absolute load of dings, run by a load of bent counciller's who have seen more balls, than Elton John's chin!! lol. They don't listen nor are they bothered about the town's opinion and they would gladly pinch yeh teeth n come back for yeh gums, lol. And, are simply not worth a rub or a nut or my time, well aye!! lol.[/p][/quote]Ian James L by any chance? theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes
  • Score: 1

7:19pm Sun 5 Jan 14

calumannabel says...

paul1963 wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.
I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made
So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content.
What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door?
[quote][p][bold]paul1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.[/p][/quote]I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made[/p][/quote]So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content. What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door? calumannabel
  • Score: 10

8:05pm Sun 5 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

calumannabel wrote:
paul1963 wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.
I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made
So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content.
What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door?
Yeah, why didnt they come round and knock and my door?
Oh yeah, cos this involves thousands of households and would have taken months to invidually canvass opinion whereas those who are more socially aware and take an interest in things going on around them were able to have an input.
Whats the next complaint going to be? Bill Dixon didnt come round and wipe your arse for you?
Grow up people and complain about some real issues, better still, stop complaining and get out there and do something about the things which vex you so much.
[quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.[/p][/quote]I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made[/p][/quote]So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content. What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door?[/p][/quote]Yeah, why didnt they come round and knock and my door? Oh yeah, cos this involves thousands of households and would have taken months to invidually canvass opinion whereas those who are more socially aware and take an interest in things going on around them were able to have an input. Whats the next complaint going to be? Bill Dixon didnt come round and wipe your arse for you? Grow up people and complain about some real issues, better still, stop complaining and get out there and do something about the things which vex you so much. theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes
  • Score: -3

10:06pm Sun 5 Jan 14

don king says...

My wheelie bin is full every week so how am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for them to empty them?
My wheelie bin is full every week so how am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for them to empty them? don king
  • Score: 7

10:23pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Starteck2002 says...

Looking forward to this - i currently have 7 wheelie bins outside my kitchen window - soon to be doubled to 14. They get tipped over, over filled, left all over the car park and take up a valuable car parking space because the owners of them are too lazy to take them through to their designated bin area. Complaints to the council have resulted in no action yet I still get the letters from the council telling me to tidy up the mess those bins leave behind because all the dross gets blown onto my garden. In theory the wheelie bins are a good idea but in practice they are proving a nuisence to me.

Those on here saying that the people of Darlington complain for no reason should consider that what works for them may not work for others (as is the case for me).
Looking forward to this - i currently have 7 wheelie bins outside my kitchen window - soon to be doubled to 14. They get tipped over, over filled, left all over the car park and take up a valuable car parking space because the owners of them are too lazy to take them through to their designated bin area. Complaints to the council have resulted in no action yet I still get the letters from the council telling me to tidy up the mess those bins leave behind because all the dross gets blown onto my garden. In theory the wheelie bins are a good idea but in practice they are proving a nuisence to me. Those on here saying that the people of Darlington complain for no reason should consider that what works for them may not work for others (as is the case for me). Starteck2002
  • Score: 11

10:28pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Copley23 says...

thetruththewholetrut
handnothingbutthetru
th
wrote:
Copley23 wrote:
thetruththewholetrut


handnothingbutthetru


th
wrote:
Joanne2410 wrote:
I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!
You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.
"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!"

No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see.
He's the man at the top is he not? He gets paid a fortune from the taxpayer does he not?

Therefore HE is responsible.

Noting left to debate here
There is a voting system. Only if it's a close call does he get to call the shots.

Nothing left to debate here.
[quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copley23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetruththewholetrut handnothingbutthetru th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joanne2410[/bold] wrote: I know councillor Dixon from before his current position and he is a good man with public interest in mind . I cannot fault him for the advice he gave me in 2008 when I worked along side him and helped me in my career. So don't be quick to blame him MSG, firstly you need to know someone before you judge them and secondly he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions![/p][/quote]You're wrong. We the public do not have to know Dixon personally at all. We pay his bloody wages and we will judge him on what we see of him. You're the one with the skewed thoughts about this lying thief because you've become personally involved with him.[/p][/quote]"he isn't the sole person making these decisions - there are other councillors and board members in these big organisations making the decisions!" No actually, Joanne2410 is correct TWTANBTT. Pop along to the chambers one night and you'll see.[/p][/quote]He's the man at the top is he not? He gets paid a fortune from the taxpayer does he not? Therefore HE is responsible. Noting left to debate here[/p][/quote]There is a voting system. Only if it's a close call does he get to call the shots. Nothing left to debate here. Copley23
  • Score: -2

10:42pm Sun 5 Jan 14

calumannabel says...

theartistformallykno
wnasoutragedofmilton
keynes
wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
paul1963 wrote:
calumannabel wrote:
I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.
I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made
So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content.
What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door?
Yeah, why didnt they come round and knock and my door?
Oh yeah, cos this involves thousands of households and would have taken months to invidually canvass opinion whereas those who are more socially aware and take an interest in things going on around them were able to have an input.
Whats the next complaint going to be? Bill Dixon didnt come round and wipe your arse for you?
Grow up people and complain about some real issues, better still, stop complaining and get out there and do something about the things which vex you so much.
The council seem to manage to knock on my door around local election time rather than chancing that I switch my computer on. It does not take months to canvas a small town like Darlington. I resent the comment about Bill Dixon coming round to wipe my arse - having been self employed all my life no one has ever had to wipe my arse. You obviously didn't stick around in Milton Keynes to put it right so maybe you should go back and campaign against the idiots who designed a place with so many roundabouts and fields of plastic cows. Finally there are not thousands of houses in Darlington same as there are never millions of pounds of stock as is often suggested in the adverts of local furniture shops.
[quote][p][bold]theartistformallykno wnasoutragedofmilton keynes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paul1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calumannabel[/bold] wrote: I haven't met anyone in Cockerton who was consulted. Please DBC don't pretend you consulted with the public - you are a set of liars.[/p][/quote]I live in cockerton and bothered to fill the online consultation form out it was easy to find and easy to fill out so if people didn't put their views forward they have only themself to blame. Darlington seems to be a unique town things that work in other towns wont as some people have us to believe wont work here but has no-one noticed how much cleaner the town is now no more split bags and rubbish strewn all over the place to me its one of the best decision the council's made[/p][/quote]So I have to wade through months and months of dross on the Darlington DBC website in case there's a questionnaire - I'd lose the will to live reading the self serving sh*** that masquerades as content. What's wrong with putting an insert inside the council's magazine or a letter through the door?[/p][/quote]Yeah, why didnt they come round and knock and my door? Oh yeah, cos this involves thousands of households and would have taken months to invidually canvass opinion whereas those who are more socially aware and take an interest in things going on around them were able to have an input. Whats the next complaint going to be? Bill Dixon didnt come round and wipe your arse for you? Grow up people and complain about some real issues, better still, stop complaining and get out there and do something about the things which vex you so much.[/p][/quote]The council seem to manage to knock on my door around local election time rather than chancing that I switch my computer on. It does not take months to canvas a small town like Darlington. I resent the comment about Bill Dixon coming round to wipe my arse - having been self employed all my life no one has ever had to wipe my arse. You obviously didn't stick around in Milton Keynes to put it right so maybe you should go back and campaign against the idiots who designed a place with so many roundabouts and fields of plastic cows. Finally there are not thousands of houses in Darlington same as there are never millions of pounds of stock as is often suggested in the adverts of local furniture shops. calumannabel
  • Score: 3

11:10pm Sun 5 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

It is a ward councillor who knocks on your door canvassing for votes and as such covers a section of the town not the whole town. Of course it would take months to collate information from every household under Darlington Borough Council. A street of 50 houses with an average time of 5 minutes per door would take just over 4 hours to cover, then collate the information onto paper and that one street has just taken a day to assess. Of course there are thousands of houses in Darlington Borough, how can you not know that?
Milton Keynes? Really? Staggering.
It is a ward councillor who knocks on your door canvassing for votes and as such covers a section of the town not the whole town. Of course it would take months to collate information from every household under Darlington Borough Council. A street of 50 houses with an average time of 5 minutes per door would take just over 4 hours to cover, then collate the information onto paper and that one street has just taken a day to assess. Of course there are thousands of houses in Darlington Borough, how can you not know that? Milton Keynes? Really? Staggering. theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes
  • Score: 0

11:44am Mon 6 Jan 14

Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo says...

So what if would take months to determine the results of a proper consultation exercise. It's going to take 10 months as it is anyway, what would an extra month or so matter? I'm happy enough to get another wheelie bin and the 2 weekly collection period doesn't bother me too much BUT I am annoyed that this wasn't done all at once last summer and I'm further annoyed that the council are suggesting the majority of people want them when in reality they have only 310 (0.342% of the towns population) positive responses.
So what if would take months to determine the results of a proper consultation exercise. It's going to take 10 months as it is anyway, what would an extra month or so matter? I'm happy enough to get another wheelie bin and the 2 weekly collection period doesn't bother me too much BUT I am annoyed that this wasn't done all at once last summer and I'm further annoyed that the council are suggesting the majority of people want them when in reality they have only 310 (0.342% of the towns population) positive responses. Employed Tax Payer, Central Darlo
  • Score: 10

12:19pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

This Labour council really is dross but you have to wonder about the abilities of the other parties when they can make no headway in the polls against such widespread ineptitude and self-interest or is it the case they are all happy with their nice cosy little earners.
This Labour council really is dross but you have to wonder about the abilities of the other parties when they can make no headway in the polls against such widespread ineptitude and self-interest or is it the case they are all happy with their nice cosy little earners. Homshaw1
  • Score: 19

12:28pm Mon 6 Jan 14

TheTruthAlwaysHurts says...

If all you have to worry about in life is whether you have 2 bins or 1 then perhaps you need to take a small reality check and look at how some of the poorest people in the world have to live on a day to day basis...
If all you have to worry about in life is whether you have 2 bins or 1 then perhaps you need to take a small reality check and look at how some of the poorest people in the world have to live on a day to day basis... TheTruthAlwaysHurts
  • Score: 0

1:38pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

TheTruthAlwaysHurts wrote:
If all you have to worry about in life is whether you have 2 bins or 1 then perhaps you need to take a small reality check and look at how some of the poorest people in the world have to live on a day to day basis...
So because there are poor people we should stop commenting on other issues. I fervently wish that some day these people can spend their time taking about wheelie bins but in the meanwhile I struggle with the reasoning behind your statement
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthAlwaysHurts[/bold] wrote: If all you have to worry about in life is whether you have 2 bins or 1 then perhaps you need to take a small reality check and look at how some of the poorest people in the world have to live on a day to day basis...[/p][/quote]So because there are poor people we should stop commenting on other issues. I fervently wish that some day these people can spend their time taking about wheelie bins but in the meanwhile I struggle with the reasoning behind your statement Homshaw1
  • Score: 4

2:11pm Mon 6 Jan 14

charliebrown1 says...

and where the heck is this second bin supposed to live considering I have no room for the first one in my yard
and where the heck is this second bin supposed to live considering I have no room for the first one in my yard charliebrown1
  • Score: 9

3:06pm Mon 6 Jan 14

bones26 says...

i for one would like to see some results published on the areas that were used in this decesion .dbc must have those somewhere unless there made up as usual because there trying to hide something AGAIN .
i for one would like to see some results published on the areas that were used in this decesion .dbc must have those somewhere unless there made up as usual because there trying to hide something AGAIN . bones26
  • Score: 2

3:29pm Mon 6 Jan 14

miketually says...

don king wrote:
My wheelie bin is full every week so how am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for them to empty them?
You won't be putting as much into your current bin, because plastic and metals will go in the new one, so you should get through two weeks just fine.
[quote][p][bold]don king[/bold] wrote: My wheelie bin is full every week so how am I supposed to wait 2 weeks for them to empty them?[/p][/quote]You won't be putting as much into your current bin, because plastic and metals will go in the new one, so you should get through two weeks just fine. miketually
  • Score: -5

3:35pm Mon 6 Jan 14

miketually says...

The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views.

As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form.

The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto
n.gov.uk/Generic/con
sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation".

If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.
The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views. As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form. The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto n.gov.uk/Generic/con sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation". If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town. miketually
  • Score: -3

4:03pm Mon 6 Jan 14

boysibandit says...

we live in Durham and have been doing this for months we were not consulted but having said that it works ,recycle one week rubbish the following week and the glass bin when it's gets full usually about every three weeks for that ,the elderly or their carers of the elderly can tell the council if they can not manage the bins and the refuse collector pull the bins out and put them back in so at the end of the day your stuck with it so there's no point in moaning really !
we live in Durham and have been doing this for months we were not consulted but having said that it works ,recycle one week rubbish the following week and the glass bin when it's gets full usually about every three weeks for that ,the elderly or their carers of the elderly can tell the council if they can not manage the bins and the refuse collector pull the bins out and put them back in so at the end of the day your stuck with it so there's no point in moaning really ! boysibandit
  • Score: 0

7:33pm Mon 6 Jan 14

theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes says...

miketually wrote:
The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views.

As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form.

The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto

n.gov.uk/Generic/con

sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation".

If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.
Exactly. However a lot of people need their hand holding and will moan if it isnt.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views. As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form. The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto n.gov.uk/Generic/con sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation". If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.[/p][/quote]Exactly. However a lot of people need their hand holding and will moan if it isnt. theartistformallyknownasoutragedofmiltonkeynes
  • Score: -1

8:14am Tue 7 Jan 14

Madadrian says...

Time-Traveller wrote:
Maybe a bit of 'Self Help' is needed here.... A few containers (emptied regularly by DBC) dotted around at strategic positions for us to walk our recycleables to? Who knows, we may save the planet yet!
We used to have these but now the only one I know of is on the ASDA car park. There was one next to Gladstone street car park. The sign is still there but the bins have gone. More evidence of the stupidity and incompetence of DBC
[quote][p][bold]Time-Traveller[/bold] wrote: Maybe a bit of 'Self Help' is needed here.... A few containers (emptied regularly by DBC) dotted around at strategic positions for us to walk our recycleables to? Who knows, we may save the planet yet![/p][/quote]We used to have these but now the only one I know of is on the ASDA car park. There was one next to Gladstone street car park. The sign is still there but the bins have gone. More evidence of the stupidity and incompetence of DBC Madadrian
  • Score: 6

9:01am Tue 7 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

miketually wrote:
The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views.

As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form.

The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto

n.gov.uk/Generic/con

sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation".

If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.
You are obviously very sad. Most people have better things to do than study the council website in detail.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views. As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form. The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto n.gov.uk/Generic/con sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation". If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.[/p][/quote]You are obviously very sad. Most people have better things to do than study the council website in detail. Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

9:18am Tue 7 Jan 14

miketually says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
miketually wrote:
The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views.

As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form.

The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto


n.gov.uk/Generic/con


sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation".

If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.
You are obviously very sad. Most people have better things to do than study the council website in detail.
Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: The people complaining about consultation: if you are seeing this story, you probably knew about the online consultation because you were probably complaining about the potential wheelie bins on the comments on this website, under a story which contained details of how to put forward your views. As far as I know, nobody knocked on our door to ask our views (we'd have been out anyway), but we followed links from here or on Facebook to the online consultation and filled in the online form. The council even list all of their consultations on one page of their website - http://www.darlingto n.gov.uk/Generic/con sultations.htm - which is the first result if you Google for "Darlington consultation". If I remember rightly, the Echo news bills outside most newsagents even had something about a bin consultation on them, and there were a couple of pages in the magazine which is delivered to every household in the town.[/p][/quote]You are obviously very sad. Most people have better things to do than study the council website in detail.[/p][/quote]Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point. miketually
  • Score: -1

4:02pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

Quote from miketually "Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point."

I did read what you wrote and I am capable of understanding it. I and most other people look at the council website to see what time the Dolphin Centre opens or what days the bins are collected at Christmas. They do not go on to look for consultations that they do not know are happening.

The way the council has consulted is misleading at best because clearly people with strong ideas are more likely to respond. At worst you can canvas or instructed people to respond to ways that sway the vote. What is needed is a statistically significant sample covering a representative sample of peoples in Darlington.

Could I ask if you have any connection with the Council?. I just find it odd that someone takes such a keen interest in council websites, facebook and twitter pages
Quote from miketually "Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point." I did read what you wrote and I am capable of understanding it. I and most other people look at the council website to see what time the Dolphin Centre opens or what days the bins are collected at Christmas. They do not go on to look for consultations that they do not know are happening. The way the council has consulted is misleading at best because clearly people with strong ideas are more likely to respond. At worst you can canvas or instructed people to respond to ways that sway the vote. What is needed is a statistically significant sample covering a representative sample of peoples in Darlington. Could I ask if you have any connection with the Council?. I just find it odd that someone takes such a keen interest in council websites, facebook and twitter pages Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

4:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

miketually says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
Quote from miketually "Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point."

I did read what you wrote and I am capable of understanding it. I and most other people look at the council website to see what time the Dolphin Centre opens or what days the bins are collected at Christmas. They do not go on to look for consultations that they do not know are happening.

The way the council has consulted is misleading at best because clearly people with strong ideas are more likely to respond. At worst you can canvas or instructed people to respond to ways that sway the vote. What is needed is a statistically significant sample covering a representative sample of peoples in Darlington.

Could I ask if you have any connection with the Council?. I just find it odd that someone takes such a keen interest in council websites, facebook and twitter pages
1. See Northern Echo bill outside newsagent saying council are consulting on wheelie bins (or Facebook post, Tweet, article in the Northern Echo, or double page spread in the magazine posted through the door, hearing it in conversation, whatever);
2. Look for the consultation using Google.

I've no connection to the Council, other than living in the town and caring a bit about what happens here.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: Quote from miketually "Did you read what I wrote? Nobody needed to study the Council website in detail; that's the point." I did read what you wrote and I am capable of understanding it. I and most other people look at the council website to see what time the Dolphin Centre opens or what days the bins are collected at Christmas. They do not go on to look for consultations that they do not know are happening. The way the council has consulted is misleading at best because clearly people with strong ideas are more likely to respond. At worst you can canvas or instructed people to respond to ways that sway the vote. What is needed is a statistically significant sample covering a representative sample of peoples in Darlington. Could I ask if you have any connection with the Council?. I just find it odd that someone takes such a keen interest in council websites, facebook and twitter pages[/p][/quote]1. See Northern Echo bill outside newsagent saying council are consulting on wheelie bins (or Facebook post, Tweet, article in the Northern Echo, or double page spread in the magazine posted through the door, hearing it in conversation, whatever); 2. Look for the consultation using Google. I've no connection to the Council, other than living in the town and caring a bit about what happens here. miketually
  • Score: 0

4:32pm Tue 7 Jan 14

andreadarlo says...

may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....
may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then.... andreadarlo
  • Score: 2

5:14pm Tue 7 Jan 14

sineater says...

If weekly rubbish collections are brought back in ,providing people are recycling properly there won't be much waste to take away,will that be an efficient use of labour and petrol, when councils are supposed to becoming more efficient with their budgets?
If weekly rubbish collections are brought back in ,providing people are recycling properly there won't be much waste to take away,will that be an efficient use of labour and petrol, when councils are supposed to becoming more efficient with their budgets? sineater
  • Score: -3

5:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

miketually says...

sineater wrote:
If weekly rubbish collections are brought back in ,providing people are recycling properly there won't be much waste to take away,will that be an efficient use of labour and petrol, when councils are supposed to becoming more efficient with their budgets?
Good point; it's very inefficient to drive around emptying half-full* bins.

*half-empty if you're a pessimist :)
[quote][p][bold]sineater[/bold] wrote: If weekly rubbish collections are brought back in ,providing people are recycling properly there won't be much waste to take away,will that be an efficient use of labour and petrol, when councils are supposed to becoming more efficient with their budgets?[/p][/quote]Good point; it's very inefficient to drive around emptying half-full* bins. *half-empty if you're a pessimist :) miketually
  • Score: 0

8:08am Wed 8 Jan 14

BMD says...

miketually says...If the Council spent money writing to every household, people on here would be complaining that they were wasting money writing when they already deliver a magazine to each household that they could have used.

They sent me an expensive “Local Motion” Christmas card, which promptly followed the Darlington Together Magazine into the wheelie bin.

It is therefore proven the council can waste money writing to each household.
miketually says...If the Council spent money writing to every household, people on here would be complaining that they were wasting money writing when they already deliver a magazine to each household that they could have used. They sent me an expensive “Local Motion” Christmas card, which promptly followed the Darlington Together Magazine into the wheelie bin. It is therefore proven the council can waste money writing to each household. BMD
  • Score: 5

8:53am Wed 8 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

andreadarlo wrote:
may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....
That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer.

Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories
[quote][p][bold]andreadarlo[/bold] wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....[/p][/quote]That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer. Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

9:23am Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

andreadarlo wrote:
may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....
I hope you've reported this to the Council?
[quote][p][bold]andreadarlo[/bold] wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....[/p][/quote]I hope you've reported this to the Council? miketually
  • Score: 2

10:25am Wed 8 Jan 14

giggitty says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
andreadarlo wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....
That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer. Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories
It actually sums up people like yourself and the vast majority of other Council haters here. Utterly clueless. IE: Everyone in DBC is on the take and looking after number one. It would be impossible in this day and age to do that!

And just because someone defends the council or takes and interest in the council they must thefore work the council, as surely everyone knows the council is corrupt. But maybe, just maybe, it’s because that person is not insular in his/her views and doesn’t take one or two minor (or even major) incidences to cloud their judgment about the majority of great work the council does.

Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum.

And before anyone asks, no I don’t work for the council, nor does any of my family. Yes, I live in the Borough and yes, in general, I would happily pay more Council Tax to see services saved.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andreadarlo[/bold] wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....[/p][/quote]That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer. Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories[/p][/quote]It actually sums up people like yourself and the vast majority of other Council haters here. Utterly clueless. IE: Everyone in DBC is on the take and looking after number one. It would be impossible in this day and age to do that! And just because someone defends the council or takes and interest in the council they must thefore work the council, as surely everyone knows the council is corrupt. But maybe, just maybe, it’s because that person is not insular in his/her views and doesn’t take one or two minor (or even major) incidences to cloud their judgment about the majority of great work the council does. Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum. And before anyone asks, no I don’t work for the council, nor does any of my family. Yes, I live in the Borough and yes, in general, I would happily pay more Council Tax to see services saved. giggitty
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Wed 8 Jan 14

bones26 says...

Why dont we just do away with binmen/women and the wagons altogether and every body just take there own rubbish away to the tips .when its windy as it has been lately there will be more plastic boxes flying around the streets as the refuse collectors just chuck them down anyway where as we have to line them up nicely facing the the right way for them to take away and to be quite honest we are nearly doing there job for them
Why dont we just do away with binmen/women and the wagons altogether and every body just take there own rubbish away to the tips .when its windy as it has been lately there will be more plastic boxes flying around the streets as the refuse collectors just chuck them down anyway where as we have to line them up nicely facing the the right way for them to take away and to be quite honest we are nearly doing there job for them bones26
  • Score: 1

3:19pm Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

"Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum."

Yep, years of low rises mean we have the cheapest Council tax in the North East.
"Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum." Yep, years of low rises mean we have the cheapest Council tax in the North East. miketually
  • Score: -2

4:27pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

giggitty wrote:
Homshaw1 wrote:
andreadarlo wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....
That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer. Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories
It actually sums up people like yourself and the vast majority of other Council haters here. Utterly clueless. IE: Everyone in DBC is on the take and looking after number one. It would be impossible in this day and age to do that!

And just because someone defends the council or takes and interest in the council they must thefore work the council, as surely everyone knows the council is corrupt. But maybe, just maybe, it’s because that person is not insular in his/her views and doesn’t take one or two minor (or even major) incidences to cloud their judgment about the majority of great work the council does.

Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum.

And before anyone asks, no I don’t work for the council, nor does any of my family. Yes, I live in the Borough and yes, in general, I would happily pay more Council Tax to see services saved.
Utterly Clueless! Hurling insults makes you a moron in my book. Other people are entitled to opinions even through you obviously do not agree they should be allowed them..

So here we have an accusation that a council worker is getting preferential treatment but you think that is fine and even suggest it can not happen. By the way I made no mention of anyone been on the take that was you.

My dealings with the council are much different to your own. All I come across is people who are inefficient, offer a poor service and poor value for money. When you ring up the council it seems grossly overstaffed and even council staff who have previously been employed in the private sector admit that it is a very relaxed work regime.

As for the size of the council tax other councils seem to offer a much better service than Darlington. The funding formulas must be the same for every council. I'm sure Darlington hasn't got a separate one. Its certainly one of the dirtiest places I've ever see and if you see the staff at work they are half hearted at best. .If other councils can do better so should Darlington

The only reason I asked whether the guy worked for the council is I don't know many people who study council websites, facebook pages and twitter feeds. Seems a odd hobby to me. But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot.
[quote][p][bold]giggitty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andreadarlo[/bold] wrote: may i ask, ....do you get special privlages when you work for DBC? its just that one of your employees who lives across from me has 2 large wheelie bins on his drive, when the rest of us normal folk have to make do with one! he only has 2 young children in his household as well. whys that then....[/p][/quote]That sums up Darlington Council in one paragraph. They look after themselves and dump on the ordinary ratepayer. Northern Echo - you should follow this up. That is proper journalism - better than the usual sycophantic offering we get with council stories[/p][/quote]It actually sums up people like yourself and the vast majority of other Council haters here. Utterly clueless. IE: Everyone in DBC is on the take and looking after number one. It would be impossible in this day and age to do that! And just because someone defends the council or takes and interest in the council they must thefore work the council, as surely everyone knows the council is corrupt. But maybe, just maybe, it’s because that person is not insular in his/her views and doesn’t take one or two minor (or even major) incidences to cloud their judgment about the majority of great work the council does. Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum. And before anyone asks, no I don’t work for the council, nor does any of my family. Yes, I live in the Borough and yes, in general, I would happily pay more Council Tax to see services saved.[/p][/quote]Utterly Clueless! Hurling insults makes you a moron in my book. Other people are entitled to opinions even through you obviously do not agree they should be allowed them.. So here we have an accusation that a council worker is getting preferential treatment but you think that is fine and even suggest it can not happen. By the way I made no mention of anyone been on the take that was you. My dealings with the council are much different to your own. All I come across is people who are inefficient, offer a poor service and poor value for money. When you ring up the council it seems grossly overstaffed and even council staff who have previously been employed in the private sector admit that it is a very relaxed work regime. As for the size of the council tax other councils seem to offer a much better service than Darlington. The funding formulas must be the same for every council. I'm sure Darlington hasn't got a separate one. Its certainly one of the dirtiest places I've ever see and if you see the staff at work they are half hearted at best. .If other councils can do better so should Darlington The only reason I asked whether the guy worked for the council is I don't know many people who study council websites, facebook pages and twitter feeds. Seems a odd hobby to me. But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot. Homshaw1
  • Score: 4

4:59pm Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

"But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot."

It's nice to be talked about :)

Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply.

Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish.
"But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot." It's nice to be talked about :) Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply. Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish. miketually
  • Score: -2

6:13pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

miketually wrote:
"But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot."

It's nice to be talked about :)

Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply.

Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish.
It would be strange to have an official Town twetter who openly critised the council. If your views are closely aligned to that of the council you have every right to express them. However your reply could have been a little more comprehensive. You did have connections with the council.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: "But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot." It's nice to be talked about :) Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply. Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish.[/p][/quote]It would be strange to have an official Town twetter who openly critised the council. If your views are closely aligned to that of the council you have every right to express them. However your reply could have been a little more comprehensive. You did have connections with the council. Homshaw1
  • Score: 2

6:30pm Wed 8 Jan 14

miketually says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
miketually wrote:
"But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot."

It's nice to be talked about :)

Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply.

Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish.
It would be strange to have an official Town twetter who openly critised the council. If your views are closely aligned to that of the council you have every right to express them. However your reply could have been a little more comprehensive. You did have connections with the council.
I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: "But someone has explained to me that he is in fact the paid town Twitter so that explains why he trawls around the internet where no one else would. Neither would you expect him to express criticism of the council. I will say that his reply while not untrue was less than comprehensive and explains a lot." It's nice to be talked about :) Several years ago I was paid a one-off £140, by a PR firm working for a group who are part-funded by the council, to tweet about the town. I did this for 2010 and the first few months of 2011, and that's all. If you think this would influence what I say about the Council, you must think people are bought very cheaply. Unlike many on here, I choose to post under a consistent name which is easily traced back to me. You can very easily find out who I am, should you wish.[/p][/quote]It would be strange to have an official Town twetter who openly critised the council. If your views are closely aligned to that of the council you have every right to express them. However your reply could have been a little more comprehensive. You did have connections with the council.[/p][/quote]I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit. miketually
  • Score: -1

7:21pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Jackaranda says...

bones26 wrote:
Why dont we just do away with binmen/women and the wagons altogether and every body just take there own rubbish away to the tips .when its windy as it has been lately there will be more plastic boxes flying around the streets as the refuse collectors just chuck them down anyway where as we have to line them up nicely facing the the right way for them to take away and to be quite honest we are nearly doing there job for them
Hey bones you've stole my thunder there, I said to her that does the housework a while back that the bin lorry should have a driver who drives round the streets with ice cream van type chimes, and when we hear them we go out and hoik the bag into the lorry!!
[quote][p][bold]bones26[/bold] wrote: Why dont we just do away with binmen/women and the wagons altogether and every body just take there own rubbish away to the tips .when its windy as it has been lately there will be more plastic boxes flying around the streets as the refuse collectors just chuck them down anyway where as we have to line them up nicely facing the the right way for them to take away and to be quite honest we are nearly doing there job for them[/p][/quote]Hey bones you've stole my thunder there, I said to her that does the housework a while back that the bin lorry should have a driver who drives round the streets with ice cream van type chimes, and when we hear them we go out and hoik the bag into the lorry!! Jackaranda
  • Score: 4

8:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

You initially said you had no connection with the council. It's like saying "Its a bit warm in the Sahara" which is true but doesn't give an accurate picture.

Darlington is fine. The council is very poor and ruins a great town with a special history

If Giggitty wants to pay more I'm sure the council will be happy to take voluntary contributions.
You initially said you had no connection with the council. It's like saying "Its a bit warm in the Sahara" which is true but doesn't give an accurate picture. Darlington is fine. The council is very poor and ruins a great town with a special history If Giggitty wants to pay more I'm sure the council will be happy to take voluntary contributions. Homshaw1
  • Score: 1

12:35pm Thu 9 Jan 14

sixtyschild says...

Overall I think the bins are a good thing.
The only problem I find is that you line your bin up correctly for it to be emptied only to find when you go to retrieve it, it is dumped in front of your garage door. Therefore the bin is knocked over every time. I have even tried to move the bin further away but to no avail
Overall I think the bins are a good thing. The only problem I find is that you line your bin up correctly for it to be emptied only to find when you go to retrieve it, it is dumped in front of your garage door. Therefore the bin is knocked over every time. I have even tried to move the bin further away but to no avail sixtyschild
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Thu 9 Jan 14

miketually says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
You initially said you had no connection with the council. It's like saying "Its a bit warm in the Sahara" which is true but doesn't give an accurate picture.

Darlington is fine. The council is very poor and ruins a great town with a special history

If Giggitty wants to pay more I'm sure the council will be happy to take voluntary contributions.
I'm sure that I replied this last night, but it's vanished. How odd.

Has my reply been reported and deleted, for some reason? There was nothing in it to warrant it being.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: You initially said you had no connection with the council. It's like saying "Its a bit warm in the Sahara" which is true but doesn't give an accurate picture. Darlington is fine. The council is very poor and ruins a great town with a special history If Giggitty wants to pay more I'm sure the council will be happy to take voluntary contributions.[/p][/quote]I'm sure that I replied this last night, but it's vanished. How odd. Has my reply been reported and deleted, for some reason? There was nothing in it to warrant it being. miketually
  • Score: -1

1:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

BMD says...

miketually says... I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit.

Mike, you accepted the 40 pieces of silver, therefore all comments or postings you make on HAS relating Darlington Council have to be disregarded.

You have simply been in their pocket and could have a desire to return to your former position of “Town Tw*tter”
miketually says... I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit. Mike, you accepted the 40 pieces of silver, therefore all comments or postings you make on HAS relating Darlington Council have to be disregarded. You have simply been in their pocket and could have a desire to return to your former position of “Town Tw*tter” BMD
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Thu 9 Jan 14

miketually says...

BMD wrote:
miketually says... I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit.

Mike, you accepted the 40 pieces of silver, therefore all comments or postings you make on HAS relating Darlington Council have to be disregarded.

You have simply been in their pocket and could have a desire to return to your former position of “Town Tw*tter”
You think I can be bought for 9p a day? :)

The council have never had any say over what went on the @TheDarloBard account, which I created and am the only person with the login details. All they ever did was add me to the recipients of any press release email that they sent.
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: miketually says... I think you have your cause and effect mixed up: I am positive about the town and what it has to offer, which was a reason that I was selected to be the official twit. That's not the same as being positive about the town because I was the official twit. Mike, you accepted the 40 pieces of silver, therefore all comments or postings you make on HAS relating Darlington Council have to be disregarded. You have simply been in their pocket and could have a desire to return to your former position of “Town Tw*tter”[/p][/quote]You think I can be bought for 9p a day? :) The council have never had any say over what went on the @TheDarloBard account, which I created and am the only person with the login details. All they ever did was add me to the recipients of any press release email that they sent. miketually
  • Score: -1

2:49pm Thu 9 Jan 14

miketually says...

Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know.

For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems.
Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know. For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems. miketually
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Thu 9 Jan 14

sineater says...

All this debate and mud slinging over wheelie bins,there is no problems at all with them,and any concerns can be solved by contacting the council and asking for help---end of ffs
All this debate and mud slinging over wheelie bins,there is no problems at all with them,and any concerns can be solved by contacting the council and asking for help---end of ffs sineater
  • Score: 0

3:34pm Thu 9 Jan 14

BMD says...

miketually wrote:
Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know. For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems.
You have not only accepted the 40 pieces of silver, your even drinking from the poisoned chalice.

Don’t you have any standards?

:o)
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know. For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems.[/p][/quote]You have not only accepted the 40 pieces of silver, your even drinking from the poisoned chalice. Don’t you have any standards? :o) BMD
  • Score: 2

4:16pm Thu 9 Jan 14

miketually says...

BMD wrote:
miketually wrote:
Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know. For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems.
You have not only accepted the 40 pieces of silver, your even drinking from the poisoned chalice.

Don’t you have any standards?

:o)
A free beer's a free beer :)

At the time, I was giving a talk on an alternative to the Council's cycling strategy, which was critical of the Council...
[quote][p][bold]BMD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: Should we not disregard the opinions of anyone posting anonymously? You could be a Tory councillor, for all we know. For the record, Mike Barker bought me a pint once so you might want to ignore anything I say about the Lib Dems.[/p][/quote]You have not only accepted the 40 pieces of silver, your even drinking from the poisoned chalice. Don’t you have any standards? :o)[/p][/quote]A free beer's a free beer :) At the time, I was giving a talk on an alternative to the Council's cycling strategy, which was critical of the Council... miketually
  • Score: -1

5:28pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Homshaw1 says...

I have mo problem with your views being exactly aligned to those of the Darlington Borough Council hierarchy. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions.

However your initial reply denying any connection with Darlington Borough council while true was misleading

I also have a few concerns over people who claim to have a monopoly over holding the best interests of Darlington at heart. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people on this board want the best for Darlington. only your idea of what's best isn't necessary the same as that of other people. A quote about patriotism by Samuel Johnson springs to mind.
I have mo problem with your views being exactly aligned to those of the Darlington Borough Council hierarchy. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions. However your initial reply denying any connection with Darlington Borough council while true was misleading I also have a few concerns over people who claim to have a monopoly over holding the best interests of Darlington at heart. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people on this board want the best for Darlington. only your idea of what's best isn't necessary the same as that of other people. A quote about patriotism by Samuel Johnson springs to mind. Homshaw1
  • Score: 1

8:42pm Thu 9 Jan 14

miketually says...

Homshaw1 wrote:
I have mo problem with your views being exactly aligned to those of the Darlington Borough Council hierarchy. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions.

However your initial reply denying any connection with Darlington Borough council while true was misleading

I also have a few concerns over people who claim to have a monopoly over holding the best interests of Darlington at heart. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people on this board want the best for Darlington. only your idea of what's best isn't necessary the same as that of other people. A quote about patriotism by Samuel Johnson springs to mind.
Thanks for calling me a scoundrel. Not sure we really need to resort to insults, do we?

I've been critical of the council in the past, and will be in the future, if I think it is warranted. You only need to look at the blog to which I contributed for many years, http://bikedarlingto
n.blogspot.co.uk/, to see criticism.
[quote][p][bold]Homshaw1[/bold] wrote: I have mo problem with your views being exactly aligned to those of the Darlington Borough Council hierarchy. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions. However your initial reply denying any connection with Darlington Borough council while true was misleading I also have a few concerns over people who claim to have a monopoly over holding the best interests of Darlington at heart. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of people on this board want the best for Darlington. only your idea of what's best isn't necessary the same as that of other people. A quote about patriotism by Samuel Johnson springs to mind.[/p][/quote]Thanks for calling me a scoundrel. Not sure we really need to resort to insults, do we? I've been critical of the council in the past, and will be in the future, if I think it is warranted. You only need to look at the blog to which I contributed for many years, http://bikedarlingto n.blogspot.co.uk/, to see criticism. miketually
  • Score: -2

1:14pm Fri 10 Jan 14

thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth says...

miketually wrote:
"Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum." Yep, years of low rises mean we have the cheapest Council tax in the North East.
Delusional idiot.

What about all the waste and the appalling inefficiencies?
And you're answer would be to pay much more council tax!

Unbelievable.
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: "Oh and by the way, as I’ve said before, part of the reason DBC is in the sh1t it’s in is because we DON’T pay enough council tax. Hence the reason they’re putting it up by the maximum." Yep, years of low rises mean we have the cheapest Council tax in the North East.[/p][/quote]Delusional idiot. What about all the waste and the appalling inefficiencies? And you're answer would be to pay much more council tax! Unbelievable. thetruththewholetruthandnothingbutthetruth
  • Score: 1

1:43pm Fri 10 Jan 14

miketually says...

More insults, rather than reasoned debate. Well done.
More insults, rather than reasoned debate. Well done. miketually
  • Score: 1

1:07pm Sat 11 Jan 14

darloboss says...

miketually wrote:
More insults, rather than reasoned debate. Well done.
cought lying again
i think most people will ignore anything you have to say
[quote][p][bold]miketually[/bold] wrote: More insults, rather than reasoned debate. Well done.[/p][/quote]cought lying again i think most people will ignore anything you have to say darloboss
  • Score: -1

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