Opinions divided over plans for new £50m designer shopping village

The Advertiser Series: DESIGNER OUTLET: An artist's impression of the new designer village at Scotch Corner DESIGNER OUTLET: An artist's impression of the new designer village at Scotch Corner

PLANS to create a £50m designer outlet village at Scotch Corner have been met with mixed reactions.

Draft proposals for a 250,000 sq ft complex featuring 90 stores from top luxury brands, including Armani, Gucci and Prada, were yesterday revealed by The Northern Echo.

The village, which could create up to 800 jobs, would feature a number of cafes and restaurants, and would seek to emulate the success of Bicester Village, Oxfordshire.

Following preliminary discussions with Richmondshire District Council a public consultation will now take place, with the application being submitted later this summer. If approved, the complex could open by 2016.

The announcement has attracted mixed reviews, with a number of comments being left on The Northern Echo’s website - some in favour, while others suggesting the complex would damage shops in nearby Darlington.

Bill Dixon, leader of Darlington Borough Council, said the complex would pose more of a threat to cities like Newcastle rather than smaller town centres.

“We have got a more holistic town centre. There have been these designer shops knocking around for some time and they do not seem to have damaged the town,” he said.

“The only threat to our area would be to the shops in Grange Road and Northumberland Street but I suspect that is of such a different nature that it would be safe from it.”

His thoughts were echoed by Richmond county councillor Stuart Parsons, who welcomed the plans and said the complex had the potential to attract new visitors to Richmondshire from across the region.

“I suspect it could be very positive, but we will have to wait to see what is included in the exhibition. The devil is in the detail,"

He said the complex had the potential to become a top shopping designer shopping destination and if so, would not be at a detriment to nearby town centres.

“I am trying to think of any designer outlet shops in the area and I don’t think there are any. Most of those shops are not even in Hambleton and most are not in Darlington.”

However longstanding Darlington trader, Beryl Hankin, called on councils to invest in their existing town centres, rather than supporting new, out of town shopping venues.

She said: “Richmond is a traditional town centre – it is everything a shopping outlet is not.

“I just don’t understand the reasoning behind it. How is it going to benefit them? They are going to benefit the big multi-national corporations, they are not benefitting their own local traders.”

Details of the proposal can be viewed at scotchcornerdesignervillage.com

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8:50pm Wed 2 Jul 14

dave3mrr says...

Stuck between this & the new developement at Catterick Garrison I would imagine that that's Richmond well & truly stuffed as any sort of commercial centre. Who is going to invest in the town with large numbers of people going 3 miles to Catterick & 5 miles to Scotch Corner to shop & eat. Perhaps Councillors Blackie & Parsons can explain why they think that this scenario won't pan out & that Richmond has some sort of bright future.
Stuck between this & the new developement at Catterick Garrison I would imagine that that's Richmond well & truly stuffed as any sort of commercial centre. Who is going to invest in the town with large numbers of people going 3 miles to Catterick & 5 miles to Scotch Corner [with the help of free buses] to shop & eat. Perhaps Councillors Blackie & Parsons can explain why they think that this scenario won't pan out & that Richmond has some sort of bright future. dave3mrr
  • Score: -4

5:18am Thu 3 Jul 14

Homshaw1 says...

Stockton is a worse town center than Darlington mainly because of its close proximity to Teesside Park and Middlesbough. People who previously went to Darlington from North Yorkshire will go to the new complex. It will have a real effect.
Stockton is a worse town center than Darlington mainly because of its close proximity to Teesside Park and Middlesbough. People who previously went to Darlington from North Yorkshire will go to the new complex. It will have a real effect. Homshaw1
  • Score: 3

9:06am Thu 3 Jul 14

Jacko60 says...

dave3mrr wrote:
Stuck between this & the new developement at Catterick Garrison I would imagine that that's Richmond well & truly stuffed as any sort of commercial centre. Who is going to invest in the town with large numbers of people going 3 miles to Catterick & 5 miles to Scotch Corner to shop & eat. Perhaps Councillors Blackie & Parsons can explain why they think that this scenario won't pan out & that Richmond has some sort of bright future.
Richmond will get the people it gets now - tourists and visitors. Its certainly not currently in the market for shoppers this sort of complex would attract. This outlet may, in fact, boost tourism and day visiting to Richmond as people combine their visits to the area.
[quote][p][bold]dave3mrr[/bold] wrote: Stuck between this & the new developement at Catterick Garrison I would imagine that that's Richmond well & truly stuffed as any sort of commercial centre. Who is going to invest in the town with large numbers of people going 3 miles to Catterick & 5 miles to Scotch Corner [with the help of free buses] to shop & eat. Perhaps Councillors Blackie & Parsons can explain why they think that this scenario won't pan out & that Richmond has some sort of bright future.[/p][/quote]Richmond will get the people it gets now - tourists and visitors. Its certainly not currently in the market for shoppers this sort of complex would attract. This outlet may, in fact, boost tourism and day visiting to Richmond as people combine their visits to the area. Jacko60
  • Score: 26

9:52am Thu 3 Jul 14

studio says...

Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse.

Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.
Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse. Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes. studio
  • Score: 18

9:57am Thu 3 Jul 14

Shildon Town says...

Once the trees have hidden the buildings .the view then will be "All thats missing is the traintracks" heading in there...
Once the trees have hidden the buildings .the view then will be "All thats missing is the traintracks" heading in there... Shildon Town
  • Score: -6

11:02am Thu 3 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

do you know, if i had a nice new car dealership ready to open with all the bunting outside and the worlds press at hand i would be mad to have these two darlington representatives at the do, if the reasons arent obvious then i wouldnt bother reading further.
do you know, if i had a nice new car dealership ready to open with all the bunting outside and the worlds press at hand i would be mad to have these two darlington representatives at the do, if the reasons arent obvious then i wouldnt bother reading further. LUSTARD
  • Score: 2

11:05am Thu 3 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

i just had a really funny thought, you dont think beryl the guru hankin is going to run for office and become bills no 2 , best go for a pint
i just had a really funny thought, you dont think beryl the guru hankin is going to run for office and become bills no 2 , best go for a pint LUSTARD
  • Score: -8

12:09pm Thu 3 Jul 14

RealLivin says...

The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful.
The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful. RealLivin
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Thu 3 Jul 14

studio says...

RealLivin wrote:
The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful.
Thats bordering on north/south racism! There is no extreme change as soon as you pass Birmingham. If you take London out of your stats I`m sure they would be alot closer. Yes, we have higher unemployment, and lower wages, but we arent all penniless dole survivors.

I`m sure a company willing to spend 50m on a development of this size will have completed some srious market research and the fact that Scotch Corner is a major junction used by thousands of cars and buses each day ( some of them even travelling from the gold paved south ) probably helped them make the decision, along with the huge investment on the A1.

No Brainer to me.
[quote][p][bold]RealLivin[/bold] wrote: The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful.[/p][/quote]Thats bordering on north/south racism! There is no extreme change as soon as you pass Birmingham. If you take London out of your stats I`m sure they would be alot closer. Yes, we have higher unemployment, and lower wages, but we arent all penniless dole survivors. I`m sure a company willing to spend 50m on a development of this size will have completed some srious market research and the fact that Scotch Corner is a major junction used by thousands of cars and buses each day ( some of them even travelling from the gold paved south ) probably helped them make the decision, along with the huge investment on the A1. No Brainer to me. studio
  • Score: 10

1:50pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Dtonmaf says...

Sounds ideal for the once a year Appleby Fair, I bet it'll be hell working in there when thats on
Sounds ideal for the once a year Appleby Fair, I bet it'll be hell working in there when thats on Dtonmaf
  • Score: 3

2:29pm Thu 3 Jul 14

thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth says...

studio wrote:
Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse.

Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.
Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought.
[quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse. Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.[/p][/quote]Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought. thetruthyoucanthandlethetruth
  • Score: -13

2:50pm Thu 3 Jul 14

John Durham says...

thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth
wrote:
studio wrote:
Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse.

Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.
Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought.
I agree with Jacko and Studio on this. Barely a week goes by when someone I know isn't heading off to York for these sort of stores. I think this will be very popular and whilst I could see them having some impact on Darlington shops, and possibly even Teesside Park, I very much doubt that Richmond will notice any loss - but perhaps some gain from extra visitors.
[quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse. Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.[/p][/quote]Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought.[/p][/quote]I agree with Jacko and Studio on this. Barely a week goes by when someone I know isn't heading off to York for these sort of stores. I think this will be very popular and whilst I could see them having some impact on Darlington shops, and possibly even Teesside Park, I very much doubt that Richmond will notice any loss - but perhaps some gain from extra visitors. John Durham
  • Score: 12

2:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

studio says...

thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth
wrote:
studio wrote: Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse. Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.
Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought.
Hi thetruthyoucanthandl
ethetruth, ive missed you. woken up from behind your force field of a keyboard i see.

Would you care to explain your outburst. then i may accept the personal insults.

And yes, i do honestly think this can only habe a positive effect on Richmond and the surrounding area
[quote][p][bold]thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: Cant see anything but benefit for Richmond with this. More people travelling to the area, more people visiting the town, in all seasons, not just summer as it is now. Richmond doesnt have any of the shops mentioned from the outlet, far from it. Its not like i can pop into Yorkshire Trading for a new Ralph Lauren jumper. The only shop i can see moving from Richmond to the outlet is mountain warehouse. Personnally i think this idea ticks all of the boxes.[/p][/quote]Utter and complete rubbish. If you honestly think that this won't have anything but a detrimental effect on Richmond as commercial town then you're more demented than I thought.[/p][/quote]Hi thetruthyoucanthandl ethetruth, ive missed you. woken up from behind your force field of a keyboard i see. Would you care to explain your outburst. then i may accept the personal insults. And yes, i do honestly think this can only habe a positive effect on Richmond and the surrounding area studio
  • Score: 8

3:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

BigTx1 says...

I really can't get my head around why anyone would think that a development of this kind would affect the "RETAIL MECCA" that is the sleepy North Yorkshire town of Richmond...!!!

Apart from the people in and around Richmond who use the shops and small supermarkets in the town for their grocery shopping and other bits and bobs, who exactly travels to Richmond for the shopping experience?

This will not affect "shopping" in Richmond at all.
I really can't get my head around why anyone would think that a development of this kind would affect the "RETAIL MECCA" that is the sleepy North Yorkshire town of Richmond...!!! Apart from the people in and around Richmond who use the shops and small supermarkets in the town for their grocery shopping and other bits and bobs, who exactly travels to Richmond for the shopping experience? This will not affect "shopping" in Richmond at all. BigTx1
  • Score: 11

3:42pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Spy Boy says...

Any competition at this time is going to be viewed as a possible loss of earnings to other businesses in the area. I can see people going out to Scotch Corner to buy designer stuff, after all, the fashion industry have already brainwashed millions of people into this form of snobbery. It is only about 15 minutes from Darlington, so there is sure to be a knock-on effect. It looks like it's going to happen, though it does seem a bit of an odd place. Couple to this the fact that there will be some major traffic problems there while they build the new motorway and its junction, that this may not be the time to build this outlet there. Why not somewhere on the outer ring road, that is accessible to many thousands more customers?

The point for many here is that Darlington Council needs to buck up its ideas and find ways of bringing more customers into Darlington. So far their performance has been dire. You need something to bring people in and first of all you need easy access, which is almost impossible with our dreadful road network and when they actually get here, they have to find a parking place that is convenient, cheap and safe. The big shops look at Darlington and see possibilities. They also see the problems. Last of all, they meet with our council and that seems to make their minds up. Suddenly they are not coming. What are the council doing so wrong? The question needs to be asked. We need a massive clear out and we need an elected mayor. We need a someone with vision, ability and a proven track record. We also need someone that we and the businesses can trust and I'm afraid that Bill and Ada seem to have lost that.
Any competition at this time is going to be viewed as a possible loss of earnings to other businesses in the area. I can see people going out to Scotch Corner to buy designer stuff, after all, the fashion industry have already brainwashed millions of people into this form of snobbery. It is only about 15 minutes from Darlington, so there is sure to be a knock-on effect. It looks like it's going to happen, though it does seem a bit of an odd place. Couple to this the fact that there will be some major traffic problems there while they build the new motorway and its junction, that this may not be the time to build this outlet there. Why not somewhere on the outer ring road, that is accessible to many thousands more customers? The point for many here is that Darlington Council needs to buck up its ideas and find ways of bringing more customers into Darlington. So far their performance has been dire. You need something to bring people in and first of all you need easy access, which is almost impossible with our dreadful road network and when they actually get here, they have to find a parking place that is convenient, cheap and safe. The big shops look at Darlington and see possibilities. They also see the problems. Last of all, they meet with our council and that seems to make their minds up. Suddenly they are not coming. What are the council doing so wrong? The question needs to be asked. We need a massive clear out and we need an elected mayor. We need a someone with vision, ability and a proven track record. We also need someone that we and the businesses can trust and I'm afraid that Bill and Ada seem to have lost that. Spy Boy
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

hullgodfreyshire says...

this is going to be the BIGGEST white elephant built since the Berlin wall, it will have no use what soever to the people in the area, except the few that just might get a short term job,whilst these companies import the sort of staff they require to be able to sell their overpriced goods to the FEW people that can afford them.It will not only affect Darlington, but Northallerton, Richmond, , & Thirsk. they will all lose trade to this shopping centre, purely because the will be offering FREE parking, If your local councillers let this go ahead without any objections, just because somebody has said it will bring in jobs, they are sadly deluded.
HOW LONG WILL IT BE before they include an out of town ASDA/WALMART, or TESCO. IF THAT HAPPENS YOU ARE ALL UP THE CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE.
this is going to be the BIGGEST white elephant built since the Berlin wall, it will have no use what soever to the people in the area, except the few that just might get a short term job,whilst these companies import the sort of staff they require to be able to sell their overpriced goods to the FEW people that can afford them.It will not only affect Darlington, but Northallerton, Richmond, , & Thirsk. they will all lose trade to this shopping centre, purely because the will be offering FREE parking, If your local councillers let this go ahead without any objections, just because somebody has said it will bring in jobs, they are sadly deluded. HOW LONG WILL IT BE before they include an out of town ASDA/WALMART, or TESCO. IF THAT HAPPENS YOU ARE ALL UP THE CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE. hullgodfreyshire
  • Score: -11

4:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

studio wrote:
RealLivin wrote:
The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful.
Thats bordering on north/south racism! There is no extreme change as soon as you pass Birmingham. If you take London out of your stats I`m sure they would be alot closer. Yes, we have higher unemployment, and lower wages, but we arent all penniless dole survivors.

I`m sure a company willing to spend 50m on a development of this size will have completed some srious market research and the fact that Scotch Corner is a major junction used by thousands of cars and buses each day ( some of them even travelling from the gold paved south ) probably helped them make the decision, along with the huge investment on the A1.

No Brainer to me.
too right phenominal amount of traffic.
[quote][p][bold]studio[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealLivin[/bold] wrote: The last time I went down south Scotch Corner was a major road junction for the A1 and A66 in between Richmond and Darlington with a lot of little villages, It had a hotel useful for travelers and service station and that was it. So why would any one think a this was a good spot to build a luxury brand shopping center, with the north east having high unemployment and low wages, farmers struggling to make ends meet and we know soldiers arent the best paid, if they are not getting sacked as they return from active duty. So unless a glut of southerns who cant afford the millionaire life style down south are moving in with there poultry half million who is going to be buying Prada shoes, Gucci handbags and Armani suits in this area. I could understand this if we had already had the investment in roads, rail and air travel to boost our industries and local economy and we were in boom times. Perhaps these investors should be investing in something a little more practical and bit more useful.[/p][/quote]Thats bordering on north/south racism! There is no extreme change as soon as you pass Birmingham. If you take London out of your stats I`m sure they would be alot closer. Yes, we have higher unemployment, and lower wages, but we arent all penniless dole survivors. I`m sure a company willing to spend 50m on a development of this size will have completed some srious market research and the fact that Scotch Corner is a major junction used by thousands of cars and buses each day ( some of them even travelling from the gold paved south ) probably helped them make the decision, along with the huge investment on the A1. No Brainer to me.[/p][/quote]too right phenominal amount of traffic. LUSTARD
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Thu 3 Jul 14

LUSTARD says...

that lady to the right looks about the stamp of shopper, could be very interesting, bye the way if you google bicester village oxfordshire google street view will give you an insight of the type of developement
that lady to the right looks about the stamp of shopper, could be very interesting, bye the way if you google bicester village oxfordshire google street view will give you an insight of the type of developement LUSTARD
  • Score: 5

9:33pm Thu 3 Jul 14

mike1952 says...

I am surprised some think this will be a white elephant and our local councillers have buried their heads in the sand as usual- forgetting the developers have a mirade of experts, marketing consultants and existing knowledge how best these places work. Remember there are 90 shops so not all of them will be Armani Guscci Prada. How many of you have travelled 40 mile to The Metro, 50 mile to York Designer Outlet, 15-25 mile to Teesside Park. This outlet will only be 50 odd miles from Cumbria so will take in custom from there - it looks like being the biggest shopping out of town outlet from Newcastle (Metro) to York a fair population to take from. People that would have shopped in Darlington, Northallerton, Durham, Middlesbrough will travel to it so some of the local money will be spent there. Scotch Corner must be one of the busiest crossroads so plenty of free advertising as the travellers pass and see the signs and it will be easy to get to. The quality of the shops will be a factor in that the 'poshier' shops will attract the big department outlets. Finally look at the proposed shops on the website it will be a pleasure to walk round them no hooligans, drunks or cheeky kids and easy free parking plus on the local bus routes. No it will not be a white elephant but maybe be the grim reaper for some shops in our local towns.
I am surprised some think this will be a white elephant and our local councillers have buried their heads in the sand as usual- forgetting the developers have a mirade of experts, marketing consultants and existing knowledge how best these places work. Remember there are 90 shops so not all of them will be Armani Guscci Prada. How many of you have travelled 40 mile to The Metro, 50 mile to York Designer Outlet, 15-25 mile to Teesside Park. This outlet will only be 50 odd miles from Cumbria so will take in custom from there - it looks like being the biggest shopping out of town outlet from Newcastle (Metro) to York a fair population to take from. People that would have shopped in Darlington, Northallerton, Durham, Middlesbrough will travel to it so some of the local money will be spent there. Scotch Corner must be one of the busiest crossroads so plenty of free advertising as the travellers pass and see the signs and it will be easy to get to. The quality of the shops will be a factor in that the 'poshier' shops will attract the big department outlets. Finally look at the proposed shops on the website it will be a pleasure to walk round them no hooligans, drunks or cheeky kids and easy free parking plus on the local bus routes. No it will not be a white elephant but maybe be the grim reaper for some shops in our local towns. mike1952
  • Score: 9

12:24am Fri 4 Jul 14

spragger says...

Darlington is dead in the water, killed by Labour, voted for by people who pay no taxes
Bring on Scotch Corner, its choice for all to avoid the Labour hegemony
Can you not see it?
Darlington is dead in the water, killed by Labour, voted for by people who pay no taxes Bring on Scotch Corner, its choice for all to avoid the Labour hegemony Can you not see it? spragger
  • Score: 2

8:57am Fri 4 Jul 14

OldBiddyFrom Barney says...

Firstly the North East CAN afford to shop at this type of development Outlet villages are touted as being designer/top of the range ect but the truth is yes they have a percentage of very expensive items but in the main they are the places you go to get a bargain. There stock is on a level with places like T K MAXX not Harrods and the like.

Secondly the effect on Richmond/Barney will be minimal as they are hardly on most peoples radar for 'proper' shopping anyway, you go to them for a lovely day out. As far as Darlington is concerned until you sort out you horrid attitude to people trying to you know actually PARK in your town .........

A outlet village at Scotch Corner will create jobs and allow local people the opportunity to shop somewhere they actually want to shop. It will mean a customer like me will buy a new dress there instead of going to Metro Centre.
Firstly the North East CAN afford to shop at this type of development Outlet villages are touted as being designer/top of the range ect but the truth is yes they have a percentage of very expensive items but in the main they are the places you go to get a bargain. There stock is on a level with places like T K MAXX not Harrods and the like. Secondly the effect on Richmond/Barney will be minimal as they are hardly on most peoples radar for 'proper' shopping anyway, you go to them for a lovely day out. As far as Darlington is concerned until you sort out you horrid attitude to people trying to you know actually PARK in your town ......... A outlet village at Scotch Corner will create jobs and allow local people the opportunity to shop somewhere they actually want to shop. It will mean a customer like me will buy a new dress there instead of going to Metro Centre. OldBiddyFrom Barney
  • Score: 8

10:06am Fri 4 Jul 14

studio says...

OldBiddyFrom Barney wrote:
Firstly the North East CAN afford to shop at this type of development Outlet villages are touted as being designer/top of the range ect but the truth is yes they have a percentage of very expensive items but in the main they are the places you go to get a bargain. There stock is on a level with places like T K MAXX not Harrods and the like. Secondly the effect on Richmond/Barney will be minimal as they are hardly on most peoples radar for 'proper' shopping anyway, you go to them for a lovely day out. As far as Darlington is concerned until you sort out you horrid attitude to people trying to you know actually PARK in your town ......... A outlet village at Scotch Corner will create jobs and allow local people the opportunity to shop somewhere they actually want to shop. It will mean a customer like me will buy a new dress there instead of going to Metro Centre.
Finally Oldbiddy, we completely agree on soemthing! :)

The more i read about this the more i think its a great idea. I can only see positives for the area. Clearly people dont share that view, but thats the same with anything.

With the fast moving development of the A1 and Scotch Corner junction, this could not be better placed.
[quote][p][bold]OldBiddyFrom Barney[/bold] wrote: Firstly the North East CAN afford to shop at this type of development Outlet villages are touted as being designer/top of the range ect but the truth is yes they have a percentage of very expensive items but in the main they are the places you go to get a bargain. There stock is on a level with places like T K MAXX not Harrods and the like. Secondly the effect on Richmond/Barney will be minimal as they are hardly on most peoples radar for 'proper' shopping anyway, you go to them for a lovely day out. As far as Darlington is concerned until you sort out you horrid attitude to people trying to you know actually PARK in your town ......... A outlet village at Scotch Corner will create jobs and allow local people the opportunity to shop somewhere they actually want to shop. It will mean a customer like me will buy a new dress there instead of going to Metro Centre.[/p][/quote]Finally Oldbiddy, we completely agree on soemthing! :) The more i read about this the more i think its a great idea. I can only see positives for the area. Clearly people dont share that view, but thats the same with anything. With the fast moving development of the A1 and Scotch Corner junction, this could not be better placed. studio
  • Score: 4

12:55pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Number 42 says...

If you go to Darlington, or Richmond or any large town nearby to shop you are either restricted for, time or finding anywhere to park, or going to a remote car park with an extortionate parking tariff. So you can’t blame people for going to out of town retail parks - Free unrestricted parking close to the shopping so you don't have to lug heavy bags or products to a remote car park. Food & Facilities nearby try finding a toilet in Richmond for the public especially after 5 O clock at night.
If the councils are too greedy "cutting there own noses to spite their faces" Can they not see they are driving tourists & visitors away from the town centres by charging & restricting them? Then the visitors don't bother coming >. The shops can’t make a living so close or move else ware>. Empty shops mean no rates for the councils >. Empty town centres means no visitors >. Town & City centres turn into Ghost Towns. EVERYONE LOSES
So its a YES from me Extra jobs for the area & more shopping outlets without the restrictions.
If you go to Darlington, or Richmond or any large town nearby to shop you are either restricted for, time or finding anywhere to park, or going to a remote car park with an extortionate parking tariff. So you can’t blame people for going to out of town retail parks - Free unrestricted parking close to the shopping so you don't have to lug heavy bags or products to a remote car park. Food & Facilities nearby try finding a toilet in Richmond for the public especially after 5 O clock at night. If the councils are too greedy "cutting there own noses to spite their faces" Can they not see they are driving tourists & visitors away from the town centres by charging & restricting them? Then the visitors don't bother coming >. The shops can’t make a living so close or move else ware>. Empty shops mean no rates for the councils >. Empty town centres means no visitors >. Town & City centres turn into Ghost Towns. EVERYONE LOSES So its a YES from me Extra jobs for the area & more shopping outlets without the restrictions. Number 42
  • Score: 4

12:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pager11 says...

I think it is a fantastic venture, I travel to Metro, York and sometimes Cheshire Oaks, this will be on our doorsteps and will save in petrol and sometimes car park fees. I am certainly in favour of this, its about time we had something similar to other cities and towns in the UK.
I think it is a fantastic venture, I travel to Metro, York and sometimes Cheshire Oaks, this will be on our doorsteps and will save in petrol and sometimes car park fees. I am certainly in favour of this, its about time we had something similar to other cities and towns in the UK. pager11
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Tue 8 Jul 14

TomSimpson says...

In my circle of friends and family I don't know of anyone who does not travel to McArthur Glen, the Metro Centre or Dalton Park once in a while. People will continue to travel to these places until they have a reasonable alternative locally.

Is it going to have an effect on the town centres - it would be naïve to say there would be none, but if they do this outlet well they can create a much larger catchment area of shoppers than Richmond or Darlington will ever be able to. surely this can only be an asset for the area?
In my circle of friends and family I don't know of anyone who does not travel to McArthur Glen, the Metro Centre or Dalton Park once in a while. People will continue to travel to these places until they have a reasonable alternative locally. Is it going to have an effect on the town centres - it would be naïve to say there would be none, but if they do this outlet well they can create a much larger catchment area of shoppers than Richmond or Darlington will ever be able to. surely this can only be an asset for the area? TomSimpson
  • Score: 2

10:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

ScotchCornerDV says...

Good to see lots of discussion so far. There’s lot of opportunity to find out more about Scotch Corner Designer Village and join in the discussion on our consultation website www.scotchcornerdesi
gnervillage.com. Please take part in the discussion on our website and pass on the link so that other local people can have a say. Thanks.
Good to see lots of discussion so far. There’s lot of opportunity to find out more about Scotch Corner Designer Village and join in the discussion on our consultation website www.scotchcornerdesi gnervillage.com. Please take part in the discussion on our website and pass on the link so that other local people can have a say. Thanks. ScotchCornerDV
  • Score: 0
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